October 11, 2020

The Great Toilet Paper Experiment

Sometimes, even though your plate might be full and your days jam-packed, you need to step off the hamster wheel of life and do something ridiculous just for the fun of it.  September was an incredibly hectic month for us.  It included completing our last camping trip of the season (almost two weeks), emptying out the travel trailer for the winter and packing away the camping gear (which felt like almost two weeks), dealing with some medical issues (don’t worry, nothing serious, just tedious), helping our son and his girlfriend move into the house they just bought, and working on projects with them.  (“Hey, what are you guys doing tomorrow?” – a loaded question if ever we heard one.)  Let’s just say that I got tired of “adulting” and simply wanted a chance to play.

At the Outdoors RV Owners East Coast Rally in August, a bunch of us were discussing items that we had a hard time finding in the early months of the pandemic.  When I mentioned I had a difficult time finding RV toilet paper, several people commented that they didn’t use toilet paper specific to RVs; they used whatever brand they used at home - like Charmin or Scott.  Hmmm.

Alan and I always bought RV toilet paper because we figured it broke down most easily in the black water tank.  At this point, I'll digress a moment for the sake of anyone who may not be an RVer . . . RVs generally have one tank for fresh, potable water, one tank for black water (that holds water and, um, other stuff, flushed down the toilet) and at least one tank for gray water (that holds water from the kitchen and bathroom sinks and the shower).  The black and gray water tanks are called “holding tanks” because they simply hold sewage and used sink and shower water until the tanks can be emptied into a sewer hookup at a campsite or at a dump station in a campground or at a gas station.  I can assure you that RVers do NOT want to clog their black and gray water tanks due to the mess that can ensue, so we tend to be especially careful about what we put in them.

Once our buddies got me thinking, I decided that it was time to run The Great Toilet Paper Experiment.  Have you heard the advice, “trust but verify?”  Yeah, well, I rarely trust and I always verify.  So, it was off to Wally World to buy some toilet paper.

Allow me to introduce you to the test subjects in The Great Toilet Paper Experiment:

Test subject #1:  Member's Mark (Sam’s Club) Ultra Premium Bath Tissue

This is the toilet paper we use at home.  We buy it in bulk (45 rolls to the package) because all of us (Alan, Kyra and I) like it.  It’s 2-ply and labeled “Septic Safe.”


Test subject #2:  Cascades Tissue Group Bath Tissue

This was the least expensive (and possibly the worst made) toilet paper I could find at Walmart.  It’s 2-ply (the individual plies didn’t even line up) and labeled “Safe for Standard Septic Systems.”  If anyone knows what a non-standard septic system is, please let me in on the secret.  On second thought, don't.

Test subject #3:  Thetford RV/Marine Toilet Tissue

This is the toilet paper we have generally been using in the travel trailer.  In non-pandemic times, I can find it at Walmart and Camping World.  It’s 1-ply and labeled “Quick dissolve tissue recommended for RV/Marine sanitations systems” which is puzzling because most RVs have only holding tanks, not any type of sanitation system.  This is the product that I would expect to break down the quickest.


Test subject #4:  Scott Bathroom Tissue

I believe that Scott markets a toilet paper specifically for boats and RVs, as well as a super-soft or ultra-comfortable premium product, but this is the plain old 1-ply Scott’s from the toilet paper aisle, and it was labeled “Clog Free/Septic Safe.”


The set-up:  I am nothing if not completely inept and unqualified as a scientist.  For this fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants experiment, I simply filled four clear, plastic food storage containers with two cups of water each, and gently placed one square of each of the test subjects into their own little holding tank.  If you’d prefer a professional science experiment, feel free to wave good-bye and go watch an old Bill Nye the Science Guy video.  Or visit YouTube and watch one of what seemed like 2,493,325 videos of this same experiment.  Please note that the quality of the photos included with this post is somewhat inconsistent.  With the light in our dining room changing throughout the afternoon, it was pretty difficult to nail down truly comparable shots.

After 10 minutes:  There were no visible changes to any of the test subjects, and all four remained in one piece.  The Member's Mark and Thetford brands were lying on the bottom of their respective containers.  The Cascades was floating on top of the water, and the Scott was mostly floating on top of the water.  Is floating a good thing?  Or a bad thing?

Member's Mark

Cascades

Thetford

Scott

After 30 minutes:  There were no visible changes to any of the test subjects, and all four remained in one piece.  The Cascades and the Scott were still floating, the Thetford was still at the bottom of the container, but the Member's Mark was now only partially floating.  Interesting.  I won’t bore you with the photos.

After one hour:  There were no visible changes to any of the test subjects, and all four remained in one piece - until I stirred them somewhat vigorously with a fork.  Now, let’s be clear people.  Alan and I DO NOT stir our toilet paper with a fork – or anything else for that matter.  I was simply trying to imitate what might happen to the toilet paper as it was flushed down into the holding tank.  If you have a better idea, feel free to execute your own experiment and report back.  I expected the Member's Mark would hold up better than the others because it’s a thicker 2-ply toilet tissue.  I also expected to see the Thetford and Scott to break up the most simply because they’re 1-ply products.  I wasn’t sure what was going to happen with the Cascades.  Although it’s a 2-ply toilet tissue, it didn’t appear to be well-made.  In addition to the misaligned plies, the paper wasn’t tightly wrapped around the cardboard core.  Very sloppy.  And it only cost me 60 cents for four rolls.  An example of “you get what you pay for,” perhaps?  Plus, the brand name doesn’t even appear on the front of the package; it’s simply identified generically as “Bath Tissue.”  I must say, however, that the Cascades did get bonus points for being the prettiest product with its embossed floral design.  Because, after all, I always stare at my toilet paper before I use it.  Sigh.  As for what actually did happen, the Member's Mark held up the best just as I expected that it would.  And the Thetford and Scott did break down the most.  Interestingly, the Cascades actually held up pretty well – not quite as well as the Member's Mark, but not bad either.  Note, however, that “holding up well” is not an advantage when you want your toilet paper to break down as quickly as possible.  After setting the kitchen timer, I made myself some lunch, caught up on some emails and updated some financial records.  I point this out only because I don’t want you to think I sat around watching toilet paper dissolve which, I imagine, would be about as exciting as watching paint dry.

Member's Mark

Cascades

Thetford

Scott

After three hours:  There didn’t seem to be any visible changes to any of the four test subjects, but now the Cascades was the only one still floating.  I wonder what that means.  At that point, I put a lid on each of the containers and sloshed the contents around hoping to imitate what goes on in the holding tank as we’re driving down the road to the dump station (as if anybody would know).  Here’s what I noticed:  The Member's Mark broke down more than I thought it would, but there were still some fairly large, thick pieces.  Again, that didn’t surprise me because the Member's Mark toilet tissue was the plushest product.  The Cascades didn’t break down much more than it already had after I stirred it with the fork.  Now what kind of paper do you suppose is in that stuff?  Probably old recycled bank ledger cards from the 1950's or nullified union contracts with the ink (and controversial clauses) bleached out of them.  The Thetford seemed to break down pretty well into mostly smaller pieces with just a few larger ones that held on longer and stronger.  That’s pretty much what I would have expected of a 1-ply toilet tissue marketed to RVers.  The Scott toilet tissue, also a 1-ply, seemed to break down even a bit more than the Thetford and, coming off the roll, it wasn’t quite as scratchy either.  My face, folks, I tested it on my face.

Member's Mark

Cascades

Thetford

Scott

A final test:  After I noted the results of “the sloshing test” for all four test subjects, I put a lid on each of the containers and shook them all pretty vigorously to replicate our travels on washboard roads, through construction sites and to back road campsites.  After I changed into dry clothes, I noted the following:  The Member's Mark was pretty much all broken down, but appeared almost cloudy due to its thickness.  The Cascades, even though it’s a 2-ply tissue, broke down pretty well into long, thin pieces.  The Thetford broke down into small, thin pieces, and the Scott appeared as if some of it had actually dissolved since it broke down into very tiny, thin pieces.

Member's Mark

Cascades

Thetford

Scott

In summary:  Here’s what they all looked like when the experiment was over:

The Final Results!

What I learned from The Great Toilet Paper Experiment:  I learned that it probably doesn’t matter much what brand of toilet paper you use, as long as you flush plenty of water down the toilet along with it; it probably doesn't hurt if there's a little sloshing around involved on the way to the dump station; and it probably doesn't matter what the results of this experiment were because, let's face it, most of you read this post just for the entertainment value.  (It's okay - I'm not offended.)  I honestly don’t think any of the four test subjects would clog up our holding tanks, so I feel pretty confident in buying any brand of toilet paper that feels comfortable to us and provides a good value, cost-wise.  But pay attention now because here’s the REAL takeaway:  I learned that (1) it’s exceedingly refreshing to step off the hamster wheel for a while and not take life (or myself) too seriously; (2) an activity doesn’t have to be complicated or expensive to capture someone’s interest or prove intriguing; and (3) making and taking time for fun and play – no matter how old we get or how busy we are – is a delightful way to honor and celebrate the children we once were and will be, forever, in our hearts.  I’ll be seeing y’all – gotta go buy some more Scott’s!

“Never, ever underestimate the importance of having fun.”   ~   Randy Pausch

 

14 comments:

  1. I use the Scotts in the Scamp and have never had problems. Interesting and useful post.

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    1. Glad you enjoyed it! It felt pretty silly to do it, but I got my answer and my curiosity is satisfied now. Thanks for stopping by and commenting!

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  2. Good to know Mary! We still have a septic tank here, and I worry about that as well. We always use Scott - that is until the pandemic. We purchased a case of paper from a restaurant supplier, just in case...but those tiny "mis-fit" rolls go so fast that I wonder why commercial places use them! I'm so glad we now know we can use Scott in the boat or RV as well. I always hated having to look for special Marine or RV paper! Thanks for your extensive testing and for sharing results! I was thinking for a second that you must be so bored to do this, but then I realized it was more just a project away from all the other projects. (smile) Thanks again. Joan

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    1. Hi, Joan! It's interesting that the Scott brand seems to be so popular! We've never worried about what toilet paper we use in the boat since we only have a porta-potty in the cabin. But we've always erred on the side of caution with the travel trailers. I have no qualms with transitioning to Scott's now - it will be a treat to walk away from what I call "low bid" toilet paper. And yes, you're right. We're not bored; it's more like overwhelmed. I convinced Alan to take a break from the retaining wall yesterday to enjoy coffee on the front porch. The leaves here seem slow to change this year, but the color is becoming more glorious every day. Love to you and Tom!

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  3. For once, I find myself at a loss for words--however, only temporarily...not to worry. I found it entirely refreshing to have read this unexpected piece. It was especially helpful in seeing how the Scott brand--which we have used forever--fared in your experiment. However, I think it was you who belittled my post wherein I experimented with various brands of canned chili. Even if you were not that critic, I shall forever use this post of yours as the low point that my chili trials didn't reach (um, until later). Just kidding, of course; it was masterful and hilarious. Congrats!

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    1. Mike, I probably WAS that critic who belittled your canned chili post, and for that I offer a belated apology. Not my most sincere apology ever, but an apology nonetheless. Because I understand that those of us with a tendency toward OCD traits will tackle a challenge and tear it into tiny detailed pieces to expose the truth and satisfy our curiosity. With a topic as ludicrous as toilet paper, tongue-in-cheek was the only way to go.

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  4. No words, Mary, but hope you enjoyed regardless! 😂

    Here's another topic for your consideration - those who 'do' and those who 'don't' in their RV's. We fall under the side of 'don't,' as in, we don't. Liquids only is the rule of the land in our travel trailer. The reasons are plentiful - the space is too intimate to allow for 'that' type of behavior, the hassle of dealing with a black tank too annoying, and the ability of bypassing dump stations as a result too attractive.

    We just purchased a new travel trailer, and we are having the circulating toilet swapped out for a cassette toilet. It is so easy to deal with, even as it will accommodate, umm, full usage shall we say, if needed.

    YMMV of course!

    P.S. This reply was written primarily with tongue firmly in cheek. :-)

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    1. That "do" or "don't" question could be applied to more than one topic. (For the record, we use our bathroom in the travel trailer just like the bathrooms at home - full use of the toilet and the shower. We do take "military showers" when we're dry camping to conserve water, and that's most of the time.) We've met people who never cook in their RV; others who always cook in their RV. We do most of our cooking outdoors, but we'll cook inside if the weather's not cooperating or we need more than two burners. We just avoid "splattery" foods so that we don't stain the wood next to the stove.

      The mention of your new travel trailer reminded me . . . Will you please do me a favor and check your spam folder on your blog? I've commented on your last two posts and it seems like the comments just disappeared into cyberspace when I hit "publish." (I'm assuming you didn't blacklist me for some reason.) Thanks, Tamara!

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    2. Well, I checked and there are no comments pending in either Blogger, or my email, under the categories of awaiting moderation or spam. Odd! I show a comment from you in late September, if that helps.

      Interestingly, when a blogger uses certain platforms like WordPress, I find I have to use a different email address to have my comments get through. Just an idea for you, perhaps?

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    3. Thanks for checking. I just tried again and it appears that this time my comment was actually published. Here's hoping you see it on your end!

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  5. Thanks for taking one for the team and tackling the burning question of which TP to use in the camper. �� Our RV is now nine years old and we've rarely used 'RV toilet paper'. We usually use Scott's. Considering this past summer we replaced both tank valves and while the black tank was open, we shined a flashlight up into the tank and found no signs of a pyramid. Both our tanks are spick and span. We'll continue to use Scott's and only use a good squeeze of Dawn in the black tank ... no chemicals. After nine years, our system seems to work very well.

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    1. Well, it was a tough job, Ingrid, but somebody had to do it. Actually, Alan's the one who's really taking it for the team. He just realized that we're going to be using up the Cascades before we get back to the good stuff - and I bought two packs of it because I forgot to take a photo of the first one before I opened it. It looks like Scott's takes the Fan Favorite Award - you were the fourth vote today. Alan and I were both very impressed at the condition of your black tank after nine years. A round of applause for you and Al!

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  6. Lemme guess, the RV-specific T-paper is more expensive (at least that's how it usually goes). Although I don't have a boat, RV, or even a septic tank, I found this interesting (which may or may not give you an indication of how exciting my life is right now). I'm imagining your son calling you to help with a house project and you saying, "Sorry, I'd love to but I'm playing with toilet paper."

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    1. Right you are! The cost of the regular old Scott's at Walmart came in at just under 1 cent per square foot. Using my Good Sam discount at Camping World, I can buy the Thetford made for RVs for 1.62 cents per square foot, which is slightly less expensive than Walmart. It was 1.81 cents per square foot at Wally World. (If I wasn't a member of the Good Sam Club and had to pay regular price for the Thetford at Camping World, it would cost me 2.32 cents per square foot!) So yes, we've been overpaying for see-through toilet paper for 14 years and my frugal heart is broken. As for Ryan calling in the midst of the experiment, I did it on a day when I knew both kids would be at work and Alan was out of town; otherwise, there might have been a little too much explaining to do.

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